Friday, July 23, 2004

Hot, Vapid Chicks Come In All Sizes

Lard Biscuit, the personal site of Donald Trull, is a little antidote to the fixation on hot, skinny women. He's fixated on hot, curvy women instead! It may be slightly pervy, but it's progress. (Please note that the Lard Biscuit name is a reference to the whole site, not just the part about women. In case you were concerned.)

Here is his personal list of hot chicks. I agree that Mia Tyler and Kate Winslet and Monica Lewinsky are hot, but I am not sure what he was smoking when he decided to worship Anna Nicole Smith as a goddess. Does personality mean nothing to you, Donald? I had to laugh, though, when I read his latest essay on Anna Nicole.

"People ask me what I think about Anna Nicole's drastic weight loss. Anyone who knows me, and anyone who's read my annanicological ramblings, should fucking well know the answer already. I hate it. She looks absolutely terrible. It sears my soul with agony to see what this supremely beautiful woman has done to herself. She was once an icon of classic feminine sexuality, the harbinger of an aesthetic restoration in an era of darkness and lies. Now she has thrown it all away. She has cast aside her singular, defiant beauty in favor of joining the legion of anonymous scrawny boob-job blondes who already infest our cultural landscape like cockroaches, while the world moronically applauds her achievement."

So what do you think? Are you happy there's a guy like Donald out there? Do you find it all vaguely disturbing in a way you can't quite put your finger on? Do you think he's a fat fetishist or just a guy with preferences-- is there a difference? And do you think I'm crazy for being right there with him with the Lewinsky thing?

24 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think suggesting that he's a fat fetishist is falling for the idea that girls who are bigger than your average supermodel are out-of-the ordinary freaks. The chicks he's talking about - I really don't think any of of them are fat. They've all got normal, curvy, fucking sexy bodies. Except for Monica. I think you're both maniacs, with that Monica thing. I come down on the "preference" side.

And at first I was thinking the dude was kind of a pervert, but how many sites out there are dedicated to slavering over skinny girls, without the level of really interesting political/social awareness that this guy displays. I am not sure that I can say he's doing a service, but it's really nice to see a smart guy exclaiming over hot girls who sadly wouldn't make the cover of Vanity Fair.

-fu

4:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cautiously applaud lardbiscuit. I *think* he just has preferences, but time will tell. I myself tend to think that more curveaceous women ARE much more beautiful and womanly, and it's something that I aspire to rather than being a stick. .02 out...
~Anne A.

5:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it vaguely creepy when someone is fixated on one thing or one type only. It is weird when someone finds only impossibly skinny women with impossibly large breast implants attractive. It is equally weird when someone finds only larger women attractive. It's akin to white guys who only like Asian girls, which is also slightly creepy.

Personally, I hope someone finds me attractive for my unique combination of looks, personality etc. They like the package that is me. Not that they like me because I happen to fit the mold (fetish?) that they always go for and I am just the next in the series of short girls with long brown hair and an hourglass figure.

6:25 PM  
Blogger Suzy said...

I don't think he has a fat fetish, really. Sure, most of the women he likes are plus sized but, they are way at the small end of plus sized. Hell, most of them look the size of an average woman, which is size 14 in the USA.

Now, I have an entirely different view of feeders but, that's a whole 'nother ball of wax.

12:47 PM  
Blogger mo pie said...

For the record, I don't think he's a fat fetishist either. But it's interesting to think about where we draw the line (in our own minds) between "preference" and "fetish." Not just with weight, but with other things too. Like if a guy wants to tie me down sometimes, that's a preference. If he wants to tie me down and pop balloons on my head, that's a fetish.

But that's just my personal definition. Maybe I consider Lard Biscuit "normal" because I can see where he's coming from, but if he liked 600 pound women, I'd consider it a fetish because I can't relate? I don't know. And then where do I draw the line?

Maybe it's better to know as little as possible about people's sex lives. I think that might be the real answer here.

4:46 PM  
Blogger Sarah W said...

I'm with you on the Monica thing. I always thought she was very pretty. She had her share of unflattering pictures published, just like anyone might, but it always seemed that the unflattering pictures got the most attention, and that's because both sides of that issue had a stake in portraying Monica negatively, making her the bad guy. The commentary on Monica Lewinsky's appearance was suffused with politics, just like the commentary on Katherine Harris's makeup during the Florida election battle. I agree with the other commenter who mentioned girls in Africa who are encouraged to put on weight. Powerful men fight political and economic battles, and women's bodies become the battleground.

As far as the Lard Biscuit site goes, I'm glad that he appreciates the beauty in voluptuous female bodies, but I also think that he is guilty of sexualized objectification of women to the same extent as men who worship stick figures. I am less concerned about his objectification though, for two reasons: 1) his brand of objectification venerates an ideal that is somewhat more attainable to the average woman, meaning fewer unhealthy diets and eating disorders, and 2) his brand of objectification avoids the economic discrimination that is tied up with this country's obsession with thinness. In the US, rich people have the resources to purchase fresh food and a gym membership and the leisure time to exercise, so in the US, thin=rich and therefore thin=desirable. In other parts of the world and also certain eras of the past, fat=rich and therefore fat=desirable. I know there is a lot more to beauty standards than just their connection with economics, but economics plays a big role. (My favorite mental experiment to prove this: Picture a thin woman in a velour tracksuit and then a fat woman in a velour tracksuit and then ask yourself what their income is--what's your immediate assumption? Fat woman in velour tracksuit is poor and schlumpy. Thin woman in velour tracksuit is J.Lo two years ago.)

So anyway, I guess my conclusion is that Lard Biscuit is still kinda bad, but...less bad than others? If the world operated according to his preferences, more women would qualify as gorgeous sex objects--the problem is that we'd still be sex objects. And that's a problem so deep-rooted that I don't even know where to begin to tackle it.

7:12 PM  
Blogger Sarah W said...

Oh, forgot to mention...I am SO with you on the Kate Winslet thing. She is a goddess. My personal candidate for most beautiful woman in Hollywood.

7:17 PM  
Blogger mo pie said...

Sarah that's a really good point about whatever is attainable by the wealthy is what's desirable. That was true historically too, which is why larger-shaped bodies were in vogue centuries ago... it just hadn't struck me as so applicable to the present day until I read your post.

Ugh on the Lewinsky description, but I give him points for his blurb about Kate Winslet, something along the lines of "people who call her fat are idiots." I too am so tired of Kate Winslet being the poster-girl for "fat actresses" when she is so normal-looking. HOT HOT HOT, with a great attitude... but not really chubby.

11:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm, ok I'll bite. I'm a white guy who likes asian girls, so I guess I'm a creepy perv. Sweet, I love low effort societal pidgeon-holing! I also shave my head and wear combat boots occasionally. Do I get bonus points?

Seriously though, if I find smaller girls attractive, why does that suddenly make me a slave to society's whims? The asian part grew out of my love for all things pacific rim (I dabble in Taoism), but I also grew up as a gymnast and the women I saw all around me were all smaller and in incredible shape. I married a swimmer. Am I evil? That'll be $3 please... :)

- Techfiend

11:59 AM  
Blogger mo pie said...

Hey Techfiend! Remember, one of those dollars is mine.

I agree that everyone has his own personal preferences. My best friend has similar taste in women as you do: he likes Asian girls and he also likes women who are physically small. I've never been personally offended that I am not to his taste, and I wouldn't consider him a creepy perv, either.

Therefore I wouldn't consider you a slave to society's whims, but you are fortunate that who you are attracted to is considered acceptable by society. If you happened to like larger women, there would be a judgement passed on you that does not exist when you date smaller women. At least I have always felt this to be true.

There is a line when a preference becomes a fetish, maybe when it's less of a preference and more of a mandate, but if you (and now I am talking about the universal you) can find someone who fits your fetish and doesn't mind it, what's the harm? I'm not convinced that fetishes are innately bad. That's off-topic, though.

Maybe someone else has a different take on your post.

12:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've always felt that FAs were no more or less fetishists than those who are rigidly attracted only to thin women. I think whenever you are treating the body as the sole point of attraction and that body has to look a certain way, it borders on fetishizing. As an overweight woman, I have always feared getting involved with a "chubby chaser" because I want the freedom to lose weight and still be attractive to my partner. If I were thin, I would want the ability to gain weight and still be thought of as attractive. In other words, I want to be loved for more than just my looks. - Blaise (http://astralounge.diaryland.com)

2:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's the old saying? Kinky is using a feather, Perverted is using the whole chicken?

I think the unhealthiness of it, or the line between attraction vs. fetish is a matter of degree. Liking to look at a particular type of person is just a matter of preference, like preferring Impressionist art to Postmodern Deconstructionist Neo-Pop performance art or whatever. Hey, I like tall, dark-haired guys with blue eyes and nice grab-able butts more than short, skinny blonde guys. Now, when you take your aesthetic preferences and apply them rigidly to your relationships, and those preferences are the ONLY thing you apply to those relationships, you're getting to the point of being unhealthy about it. If I dated only according to my aesthetic preferences, I would not have dated a single one of the wonderful, intelligent, warm, caring (and frequently pretty hot) guys I've gone out with for the past four years. They've been tall, short, stocky, skinny, brown-haired, redheaded and blond, brown-eyed, blue-eyed, nice butt, no butt, six-pack abs, beer gut, you name it (I think I just made my love life sound a lot more exciting than it really is). But they've all been wonderful interesting people, and that was what I wanted in a date - a lot more than just something nice to look at.

Now, going to the length of creating a website (which I haven't visited yet, because I'm at work, so I'm can't really speak much about this) devoted to your aesthetic preferences is another matter, but hey, we all have to have a hobby.

8:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw eliza carthy (one of the women on his list) at a UK airport last summer. And she is tiny! she does have a round face... but believe me she is in no way overweight, though her weight has varied during her career. It's like people who think Kate Winslet is fat when she has admitted that even at her heaviest weight she was only about 190 pounds! (post pregnancy!) Just because someone has a round face or womanly figure, big breasts etc doesn't make them fat. Few of the people on his list are what i would call fat. They are hot curvy women, yes, but i would bet most of them fall into the "normal" BMI range.

9:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw eliza carthy (one of the women on his list) at a UK airport last summer. And she is tiny! she does have a round face... but believe me she is in no way overweight, though her weight has varied during her career. It's like people who think Kate Winslet is fat when she has admitted that even at her heaviest weight she was only about 190 pounds! (post pregnancy!) Just because someone has a round face or womanly figure, big breasts etc doesn't make them fat. Few of the people on his list are what i would call fat. They are hot curvy women, yes, but i would bet most of them fall into the "normal" BMI range.

10:00 AM  
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8:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone who thinks 'skinny' is overemphasized as 'hot' is fat, or ugly, or both.

if you haven't gotten it by now, ladies, now's your chance to wake up.

dudes are more visual than chicks. we men have to find you hot for us to even talk to you. so get on the treadmill and stop eating biscuits.

/e

12:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MY SECRET DESIRE WAS TO KISS KATE,SHE IS BEAUTIFUL AND WICKEDLY SEXY.SHE HAS SO MUCH TALENT.IF WISHES WERE HORSES,SHE WOULD BE MINE.AS FOR THOSE WHO SAY SHE IS TOO FAT,GET LOST,SHE IS MY IDEAL KIND OF WOMAN.I REALLY WISH SHE AWS UNMARRIED.I ADMIRE AND DESIRE HER SO MUCH!

3:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I LOVE YOU KATE WINSLET,I WOULD ASSAIL THE GRAETSET TEMPEST TO PLEASE,I WOULD WALK UPON THE MIGHTY THAMES,TO GET TO WHERE YOU ARE,I LOVE YOU

3:27 PM  
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

first off, let me say i love and prefer bbw...i find them so adorable...attractive i'd rather have a large woman instead of a slender one...i hope one day i may meet one myself...i'm an average male to be exact...let me put it this way...we love you bbw out there!...sign bbw. lover...

9:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

in the old days you know what it was like...you would pick on some fat girl with your mates at school no way you would dare to tell them that when your not at school your were screwing her.....internet gives the FA more of a voice i think

1:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I personally think that this guy is speaking the truth. I am an Australian size 16, and have gained 20 kilos over the past two years. I don't find that I get less attention from men than I did before. If anything, I get more men ogling my now plus sized breasts than before. I think the women he has chosen look very hot and not really fat at all. I don't find him perverted. It's no different from the artists of yesteryear who would have naked women pose for their art.

7:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love big women with big breasts and curvy hips. I applaud the lard biscuit.

2:47 AM  

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