Fatwatch: Courtney Love
Holy shit, she is skeletal. I cannot believe that is Courtney Love. On her website, Courtney says:
"im happy not to have crazy lips and a crazy teensy unnatural little nose. so you have your opinion and ill have mine and it is my body and my face and lost 44 pounds with 6 more maybe 11 more to go. and ill fit tin that dammed couture, ( the uh ..real stuff) so im pretty yhappy and really all i care about i sthat my self esteem is limitellss and intact"
Translation: she apparently got a nose job that gave her back her old nose, and she wants to fit in couture, which is why she is starving herself. She thinks she needs to lose up to 11 more pounds. Oh god, Courtney!
Via Shawn at TUS.
"im happy not to have crazy lips and a crazy teensy unnatural little nose. so you have your opinion and ill have mine and it is my body and my face and lost 44 pounds with 6 more maybe 11 more to go. and ill fit tin that dammed couture, ( the uh ..real stuff) so im pretty yhappy and really all i care about i sthat my self esteem is limitellss and intact"
Translation: she apparently got a nose job that gave her back her old nose, and she wants to fit in couture, which is why she is starving herself. She thinks she needs to lose up to 11 more pounds. Oh god, Courtney!
Via Shawn at TUS.
Labels: celebrity, courtney love, fatwatch
posted by mo pie at 10:40 AM
25 Comments:
While the picture is sad, even more disturbing are the comments: "She looks great!" "I wish I had her body!" No wonder those of us with a little meat on our bones have a complex, when we're constantly told that a skin covered skeleton is 'beautiful'.
Oh gosh, Mo. Agreed.
Well I see almost no flesh covering her hips or her ribcage, so we are clearly seeing different things. I am alarmed.
I agree with Jen on this one. Love's attitude sucks a bit (but hasn't it always?) when it comes to her weight but she's far from having Nicole Richie's bod. I think she looks pretty healthy--for a former drug addict slash plastic surgery junkie.
Anyway, Love's right: If you want to wear couture, you really do have to be size 4 or smaller.
Can't resist the cheap shot though:
Looking over Love's blog entry, you'd think her New Year's resolution would have been to improve her writing skills. Looks like Lindsey Lohan's mad grammar skillz are spreading.
"Anyway, Love's right: If you want to wear couture, you really do have to be size 4 or smaller."
Um, that would be a no.
Brian Reyes dressed America Ferrerra for the Golden Globes. Ungaro (or was it De La Renta? Help me out, ladies, please) dressed Jennifer Hudson for the Oscars as well as made the stunning black strapless for Meryl's appearance in DWP - and La Streep admits to a size 14, and with the most Oscar nominations in history, I hardly think she has reason to lie about something so comparatively inconsequential.
Plus, Rick Owens, who dresses Helena Bonham Carter and Madonna, makes JACKETS IN SIZE **GASP** 10. HOLY G*D. OMG!!!
How do I know? I have one.
Have a nice day.
I bed to differ, littlem. A handful of examples does not an industry make. While things may be changing, I would still put my money on the fact that for the vast majority of designers, couture is still generally in the 4 and under range.
Holy shit. I agree with pie. Man, you can see a lot of her bones. :(
I think you're right, Heather. I'd guess that most of the big guns in couture don't want to see their names on my fat ass (probably not on my skinny ass either since I'm po' brown trash).
I'm so with you on the cheap jeans thing. My last pair of Levis were $3 from The House of Goodwill.
Heather, I believe you are right: my understanding of the difference between "couture" and "ready-to-wear" is that couture is custom made. This comes from many years of writing retail ad copy, and reading the fashion mags for research.
I think the belief that "couture is size 4" comes from two places: first, that's likely the sample size the designers are using for their shows -- a size chosen to fit their ideal models. Second, it seems that many designers like to blather on about how the fabrics "drape" so much better on a skinny model; which I think is just lazy tailoring, but whatever.
I do think there's some truth to the idea that the designers don't want to see their stuff on an average-sized (or larger) woman. They've got this idea about glamour and beauty that's all f&%#ed up. But I'm pretty willing to bet that Oprah is able to get couture items made for her, whatever size she is that day. Why? Because she's a bazillionaire, and insanely famous. Granted that she's looking great, too, but you see my point.
Yeah, all the coverage of a "slimmed-down Courtney" when she looks skeletal . . . disturbing. I hope she is happy if that's her choice, though.
littlem, I'm so happy for you and your designer fat clothes. Just because a small handfull of designers are willing to dress larger clients for specific events doesn't mean that stuff if out there for mass consumption, even if we could afford it.
Your dangling participle makes it look like you have the most Oscar nominations in history, which I hardly believe.
I know it's popular to blame the fashion industry, but littlem is completely right.
First of all, Courtney Love lost weight to fit into a sample size. These are what models wear on the runway. She's doing it BECAUSE IT'S FREE. She could always buy something in a larger size.
Fashion designers make clothes in one size for a show and there are two to three samples of each garment. Buyers from stores tell the designer what sizes to make after they see the collection, not the other way around.
And buyers order larger clothes. Go to the Neiman Marcus website. The featured dress is the canary Carmen Marc Valvo bubble dress. And it's gorgeous. And sold out, in every size but 12 and 14. Which tells buyers not to buy bigger sizes because they are not selling. But it can be yours if you are willing to pay $630. And if you aren't top heavy, you could probably wear a 14 even if you're a 16 or 18.
Most couture is offered in at least a 10, although if the piece is popular they'll offer it as high as a 16 or 18.
Most people that pay hundreds of dollars per dress stay at a single size throughout their lives. They will wear the same investment piece for years. Many overweight people fluctuate in size. Larger sizes are always the last to sell and the fewest pieces are made.
Couture is art. Every time the size is increased, every detail is refigured. Size of buttons, size of print, it all must be perfect if you're paying so much. And if not enough people (globally, and the Asian luxury market is the largest) want bigger sizes, it is not cost effective to make them.
Anonymous 9:35 AM, that's a misplaced modifier, not a dangling participle. Specifically, it's a prepositional phrase incorrectly modifying "I" instead of "Streep" by placement. If you're going to take the very lame tactic of critiquing grammar to bolster your argument by making your opponents look ignorant, it really behooves you to check your facts.
That said, I think you're basically right - ready-to-wear designer clothes are usually sized small because rich, up-to-the-minute fashionistas are assumed to be able to buy thinness. Of course, as dressingup notes, couture dress samples are model-sized.
I think Courtney looks scary-thin in those pictures because of the contrast to her previous build - she was curvy even when she was shooting heroin.
I think Courtney looks sickly and skeletal--not attractive. She does not have a normal, healthy body. Granted--eye of the beholder and all.
Regarding Heather's comment about guys not thinking anorectic = sexy: When I a friend about Keira Knightley's allure, he said, it would be like having sex with a bag of hangars. Ha ha ha! To each his own, but it's quite an evocative description.
the 6 and 11 pounds is such a weird, random comment.
I think the 6 and 11 pounds just show that she's using the 5-pound markers as overall goals: 6 pounds would put her at 50 pounds lost; 11 pounds at 55 pounds lost.
I set my weight loss goals the same way, so that the next goal always seemed within reach.
That said, for her to lose any more weight would make her look awful... I think she should gain a few of those pounds back, but that's my aesthetic, not hers.
To me, her stomach looks a bit like Tara Reid's when she had her wonky first liposuction. Then she needed to get it fixed to get rid of all the lumps.
Perhaps that's how Courtney lost her weight so fast.
Her photo is just so sad in so many many many ways. What are we as a society allowing the fashion industry and celebrities to teach our children - the future of our country - about themselves and what it means to be "healthy"! Instead of standing up in mass for a change -- it is unfortunate that so many people strive to copy that kind of unrealistic and unhealthy thinness. I'll get off my soapbox now. Lady Rose
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